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This week we will be discussing Chapter One of The Grace Awakening. I will be posting thoughts each day and some discussion questions. Please add any other thoughts or questions you would like us to consider as we go along! And also, please feel free to “participate” even if you don’t or can’t comment!

 

Grace Awakening ~  Thoughts of the Day

There were several points that Chuck Swindoll made in the first few pages of the chapter that resonated with me and have given me pause each time I have read them.  In talking about the “grace killers,” he says

 

“They kill freedom, spontaneity, and creativity; they kill joy as well as productivity. They kill with their words and their pens and their looks.  They kill with their attitudes far more often than with their behavior…..Strangely, the same ministries that would not tolerate heresy for ten minutes will step aside and allow these killers all the space they need to maneuver and manipulate others in the most insidious manner imaginable.  Their bullying tactics continue unchecked. And their narrow-mindedness is either explained away or quickly defended. The bondage that results would be criminal were it not so subtle and wrapped in such spiritual sounding garb.”

 

and

 

“Grace received but unexpressed is dead grace.”

 

 

Does anyone else have thoughts or stories that come to mind when you read these quotes?

 

 

 

14 Responses to grace study ~ week two

  • Monique says:

    Hi,
    I haven’t read the book, but I had a thought on “grace killers”.
    A big “grace killer” for me has been not believing how much God loves me! He isn’t surprised by all my “issues” and He doesn’t love me any less! I don’t need to “perform” to show Him how much I love Him as well ~ we can rest in His love. I know this is easier said than done and absolutely necessary when dealing with the effects of spiritual abuse, but if we really get a hold of how much He loves us, then we can more easily give ourselves grace and others as well. Opinions formed against us (sometimes it’s just us beating ourselves over the head), lose power to shame and condemn.

  • Becky says:

    Before reading chapter 1 yesterday I opened up my Bible and randomly decided to start reading through John. So I spent a few minutes on John 1:1-18 and then read chapter 1 of Grace Awakening. It was really cool to realize how well John 1 fit with this chapter!

    I liked this quote: “they (the Pharisees) promoted a system so demanding there was no room left for joy…the religious system they promoted degenerated into external performance rather that internal authenticity…” Been there, done that :)

    I also liked the end, where he outlines a few things to expect as you get a grasp on grace, because these things have all happened to me as I’ve left patriarchy and it’s truly amazing. It’s so nice to just live and let live–to not be worried about what other people are doing or not doing, to not be concerned with externals.

    “Grace received but unexpressed is dead grace.” Yes, yes, yes. I always knew I was saved by grace and my works were not going to get me to heaven. So I didn’t consider myself a legalist. I’d received grace! But I let it stop there because I thought my works, my obedience, would earn me favor with God and would be pleasing to Him. I didn’t realize that growth in the faith also depends on grace–Christ’s righteousness alone. “Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?” Gal 3:3

  • thatmom says:

    What came to my mind was an experience we had over 10 years ago but it is still quite fresh. We had gone through some terrible spiritual abuse with church elders who were absolutely out of control, a fact that was confirmed by their peers and spiritual authorities. At one point one of the elders called me on the phone and told me in no uncertain terms that he believed I wasn’t saved because I wouldn’t agree with a particular position he held. Believing they “held the keys of the kingdom,” which meant to them that they could determine whether or not we were real Christians, they wrote us a letter echoing what the one had said to me on the phone. A few years later, I remember standing in our new church home and singing, for the first time, In Christ Alone and how the words poured over me like a perfect refreshing mountain stream.

    “No power of hell, no scheme of man
    Could ever pluck me from His hand
    Til He returns or calls me home
    Here in the power of Christ I stand”

    It was one of those moments when the Lord reassured me of His grace in my life. I often think of the “grace killers” in that church. There are several others who didn’t survive these men….some have left the church, others have even abandoned the faith. Grace killers will have much to answer for one day.

  • thatmom says:

    Grace Awakening ~ Thoughts of the Day

    I love the idea that Jesus had a “yes” face. So often I have been tempted to always be wearing that “no” face, especially when it comes to my kids. I grew up with a mom who embraced the “no” face and still does. Her first response, to this day, is always “no.” My kids joke that she has to say that because if she said “yes” she might actually have fun! I also spent years in “no” face friendships where everything was meant with a look of disbelief that I might suggest something outside of the box. Both of these experiences left their toll on me and it has only been in the past 8 or so years that I have been able to recognize the root of the “no” face is a lack of understanding of the blessing of living by grace!

    What do you think is behind the “no” face you might wear?

    How have others made you feel when they greeted you with the “no” face?

    Where have you learned to wear the “yes” face and what brought you to that point?

  • Kelly says:

    Grace killers, hmmmm. . . Mine are presuppositions, I guess. Reading the Bible with presuppositions, instead of allowing the Holy Spirit to convict you and teach you, boxes me in in all kinds of ways. I must be this kind of mom, or that kind of wife and I have to do it all in the context of my role.

    I wear a no face because I am afraid of stepping out in faith and having fun with all the mess involved or because I like to live in my own comfort zone.

  • thatmom says:

    Grace Awakening ~ Thoughts of the Day

    Nowhere in Scripture is there is specific word for “grace.” In Hebrew the word is “chen” which means to stoop or bend and implies that it is given without merit, that grace is undeserved and unearned. It is demonstrated by God towards Moses in Exodus 33:14-19:

    “The LORD replied, “My Presence will go with you, and I will give you rest.” Then Moses said to him, “If your Presence does not go with us, do not send us up from here. How will anyone know that you are pleased with me and with your people unless you go with us? What else will distinguish me and your people from all the other people on the face of the earth?” And the LORD said to Moses, “I will do the very thing you have asked, because I am pleased with you and I know you by name.” Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.” And the LORD said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the LORD, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.”

    If grace is given, “extended fully and freely to those who won’t ever be able to repay it,” what implications does that have for our own lives? How do we regard our own sin, our need for a Savior, our relationship to God through Jesus?

  • thatmom says:

    I think the “no” face can come from lots of places…disappointments in life, hurts, bitterness, exhaustion, preoccupation, what the Bible calls “the cares of this world.”

    The “no” face leaves me feeling belittled, judged, unwelcome, disapproved of, sometimes challenged to find out why the “no” face is there!

    I truly think I have learned to enjoy the “yes” face as I started seeing my children in non-adversarial ways and perhaps that comes more naturally with grandchildren!

  • thatmom says:

    Grace Awakening ~ Thoughts of the Day

    Jesus never used the term “grace,” but it flowed through His life. His stories and relationships are permeated with it. Here are a few examples:

    The woman at the well (John 4)

    The prodigal son (Luke 15)

    The good Samaritan (Luke 10)

    Mary and Martha (Luke 10)

    Which of these stories resonates the most with you? Why?

  • Donna says:

    The no face towards others for me means “I don’t have anything else to give”. We have come to the end of ourselves and need to go to God so His Spirit can flow through us to others.

  • Yesterday one of my coworkers told me that I smile at everybody all the time. I told her it’s the Mississippi girl in me.

    The story of the woman at the well resonates with me because Jesus talked to her. He didn’t tell her to go get a man to talk to, he didn’t tell her to go and correct her sinful ways and then come back, or that as a Samaritan she wasn’t worthy of his time. He accepted her as she was and thought she was important enough and valuable enough to get his full attention. He cared about her. That really speaks to me.

  • thatmom says:

    I would have to say that each of these stories resonate with me for different reasons but I can so identify with both Mary and Martha. There have been so many times that I was consumed with the daily chores and expectations that I put on myself that I missed an opportunity to experience grace and to extend grace. There are also many times when I have failed, as Martha did, to just rest in the Lord and in His presence and even to be a bit resentful or angry at others who were able to do that and not fret about the temporal stuff. So many lessons for me in the story of these two sisters.

  • thatmom says:

    Grace Awakening ~ Thoughts of the Day

    The Old Testament also has many examples of God’s grace to us, a picture of the grace that was to come through Jesus.

    “The idea of grace, more than any other idea, binds the two Testaments together into a complete whole, for the Bible is the story of the saving work of God, that is, of the grace of God. Without grace, there would never have been any chosen people, any story to tell at all.” ~ Norman Smith

    The first time the term grace is seen in the Bible it is from the Hebrew word “chen” that is translated “favor” in Genesis 6:8: “Noah found favor (grace) in the eyes of the Lord.” Consider these other passages where God’s favor rested upon the characters in the narratives:

    The life of Joseph (Genesis 42-50, especially 45:1-15)
    The Hebrews on their trip from Egypt to Canaan (Exodus and Numbers)
    The Hebrews during their time of rebellion (Judges)
    The deliverance of Jonah (Jonah)

    Are these stories bigger than life to you?

    Have there been times when you saw God’s grace to you in miraculous ways?

    Has God delivered you in times of rebellion to Him?

    Have you experienced suffering at the hands of others but been able to say with Joseph “what others meant for evil, God meant for good?”

  • thatmom says:

    Grace Awakening ~ Thoughts of the Day

    I loved these thoughts on the fruits of living a grace filled life…….

    “Four practical expectations you can anticipate as you get a firm grasp on grace:

    1. You can expect to gain a greater appreciation for God’s gifts to you and others.

    2. You can expect to spend less time and energy critical of and concerned about others’ choices.

    3. You can expect to become less judgmental and more tolerant.

    4. You can expect to take a giant step toward maturity.”

    What are some of the particular gifts that you have received from the Lord’s gracious hand?

    How have you struggled with the choices others make? Is this ever a valid thing to do?

    What is the difference between tolerance and permissiveness?

    What are the benchmarks of Christian maturity?

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more truth from the Word
"Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you." ~ Ephesians 4:32
Francis Chan says:
"Our greatest fear should not be of failure but of succeeding at things in life that don't really matter."
Tim Keller says:
"God’s love and forgiveness can pardon and restore any and every kind of sin or wrongdoing. It doesn’t matter who you are or what you’ve done. It doesn’t matter if you’ve deliberately oppressed or even murdered people, or how much you’ve abused yourself… There is no evil that the Father’s love cannot pardon and cover, there is no sin that is a match for his grace." ~ Tim Keller
Tim Keller also says:
“The Christian gospel is that I am so flawed that Jesus had to die for me, yet I am so loved and valued that Jesus was glad to die for me. This leads to deep humility and deep confidence at the same time. It undermines both swaggering and sniveling. I cannot feel superior to anyone, and yet I have nothing to prove to anyone. I do not think more of myself nor less of myself. Instead, I think of myself less.” ! Tim Keller in The Reason for God.
Oswald Chambers says:
"If we simply preach the effects of redemption in the human life instead of the revealed, divine truth regarding Jesus Himself, the result is not new birth in those who listen. The result is a refined religious lifestyle, and the Spirit of God cannot witness to it because such preaching is in a realm other than His." ~ Oswald Chambers
Phillip E. Johnson says:
“When pressed in interviews to name my heroes, I have spontaneously responded that they are homeschooling mothers! To me, the heroic mothers who nurture the next generation of faithful Christians are among the leaders of the church.” ~ Phillip E. Johnson
John Stonestreet says:
“C.S. Lewis said that for every new book we read, we ought to read three old ones. But I think for every latest, greatest new homeschooling book you read, go find three old homeschooling moms and ask them what happened and what worked.” ~ John Stonestreet
Carolyn Custis James says:
“The power of our theology comes alive when we take the truth personally. Holding God at arm’s length—no matter how much theology we think we know—will never make us great theologians. We have to learn to write our own names into the plot. God will always be the subject of our theological sentences but our sentences are incomplete until we make ourselves the direct objects of his attributes…..Simply knowing a lot of theological ideas, no matter how orthodox and sound they are, will never turn us into great theologians. Theology isn’t really theology for us until we live it. Not until we learn to make explicit connections between what we know about God and the race we are running will we taste the transforming power of our theology. Fixing our eyes on Jesus means reminding ourselves of all that He is to us now. He brings meaning to our routines and energizes us to tackle the difficult tasks at hand. Fixing our eyes on Jesus gives us hope to offer disheartened husbands and hurting friends, and the wisdom we need to raise children who will fix their eyes on Him, too.” ~ from Carolyn Custis James in When Life and Beliefs Collide
Anne Ortlund says:
“So what do we do to encourage them to grow inwardly, to become resourceful and creative, to think, to meditate, to lay the foundation for growing up well? Don’t push, but affirm them! Give them the sense that all is well, that their rate of progress is acceptable to you, that you like them just the way they are…..Guide them but be delighted in them. Let them know that life is to be reached for and drunk of deeply…..Enthusiastic, that’s how you want them to grow up! The word comes from “en Theo,” or “in God.” Support them with words of faith, hope, and love, and in that framework “in God,” they’ll be ready to tackle everything. Fears and cautions are built in at an early age but so is courage! Tomorrow’s world will be different if your child has been released to experiment, to risk, to lead others, to pursue righteousness, to be an affecter for good in society, to go courageously after God.” ~ Anne Ortlund in Children Are Wet Cement
J.C Ryle says:
"Kindness, gentleness, long-suffering, forbearance, patience, sympathy, a willingness to enter into childish troubles, a readiness to take part in childish joys, these are the cords by which a child may be led most easily, these are the clues you must follow if you would find the way to his heart." ~ J. C. Ryle in The Upper Room
Clay Clarkson says:
“Many Christian parents, myself included, tend to speak to children as though they were Pharisees. We can speak harshly and with judgment, implying by our manner that their hearts are hard and resistant. But this attitude is not justified by Scripture. There is no record of Jesus ever speaking to a a child in a harsh tone. When the Gospels record Him speaking to a child, it is always with gentleness. Our children are not our adversaries. Though our children’s hearts are corrupted by sin, they are not hardened sinners who have made conscious choices to reject the Savior. Our children are simply immature and childish. That’s why children need love and compassion, not harshness and guilt.” ~ Clay Clarkson in Heartfelt Discipline
Tim Kimmel says:
“Grace can’t be some abstract concept that you talk about in your home. It has to be a real-time action that ultimately imprints itself in your children’s hearts. To talk about grace, sing about grace, and have our children memorize verses about grace – but not give them specific gifts of grace – is to undermine God’s words of grace in their hearts. Grace means that God not only loves them but that He loves them uniquely and specially. The primary way to give our children grace is to offer it in place of our selfish preferences.” ~ Tim Kimmel in Grace-Based Parenting
Chuck Swindoll says:
"You want to mess up the minds of your children? Here's how - guaranteed! Rear them in a legalistic, tight context of external religion, where performance is more important than reality. Fake your faith. Sneak around and pretend your spirituality. Train your children to do the same. Embrace a long list of do's and don'ts publicly but hypocritically practice them privately...yet never own up to the fact that its hypocrisy. Act one way but live another. And you can count on it - emotional and spiritual damage will occur. "
Kathy Thile says:
"I say this gently, as the parent of grown kids, knowing *insert parenting guru* is also the parent of grown kids: we have wonderful children — he does, I’m sure — and so do I. But without even knowing his children I can know this about them: they are not perfect. They hurt. They make mistakes. They struggle. They are prideful and overly simplistic at times; and crippled by shame and hesitancy at others. Yes — they are beautiful examples of human beings, his children (I assume), and mine (I know.) But they are not perfect. If they were, they would not be human. If it were possible to raise children to perfection, then God would have sent a parenting method, not Jesus. Our marching orders are not to raise our children by a method to be like *insert parenting guru* children. Our marching orders are to be Christians to and with our children." ~ Kathy Thile
Anna Quindlen says:
“The biggest mistake I made is the one that most of us make while doing this. I did not live in the moment enough. This is particularly clear now that the moment is gone, captured only in photographs. There is one picture of the three of them sitting in the grass on a quilt in the shadow of the swing set on a summer day, ages 6, 4 and 1. And I wish I could remember what we ate, and what we talked about, and how they sounded, and how they looked when they slept that night. I wish I had not been in such a hurry to get on to the next thing: dinner, bath, book, bed. I wish I had treasured the doing a little more and the getting it done a little less." ~ Anna Quindlen
Winston Churchill says:
“My education was interrupted only by my schooling." ~ Winston Churchill
John Taylor Gatto says:
"The shocking possibility that dumb people don’t exist in sufficient numbers to warrant the millions of careers devoted to tending them will seem incredible to you. Yet that is my central proposition: the mass dumbness which justifies official schooling first had to be dreamed of; it isn’t real." ~ John Taylor Gatto
Fred Rogers say:
“Play is often talked about as if it were a relief from serious learning. But for children play is serious learning. Play is really the work of childhood.” ~ Fred Rogers
thatmom says
"The truth is that the way a marriage becomes truly heavenly is for each husband and each wife to pursue, really pursue, a relationship with Jesus Christ, to commit to obey the Word of God, to set aside each of their own agendas and paradigms, and then as they walk in the Holy Spirit, as they are sanctified, a little at a time each day, they will grow closer to one another. Godly wisdom will manifest itself in purity, peace, gentleness, mercy, a willingness to submit to one another, the fruits of the spirit, and no role-playing (the true meaning of hypocrisy). (James 3:17)" ~ thatmom
thatmom says:
"We need to approach our children not as character projects, but rather, we must see them with hearts of sympathy, with compassion and understanding, and with ears that listen. You see, homeschooling is not about lesson plans and research papers and standardized tests. Homeschooling is about building a relationship with our children, friendships that will last our entire lives on earth and clear into eternity. Homeschooling is merely the tool whereby we build those relationships." ~ thatmom
thatmom knows:
As a homeschooling mom, I have realized that everything, ultimately, is outside of my own control. I have learned that the unique circumstances that happen in my family have occurred because God’s plan is so much bigger than my own. It is knowing this truth about God and in experiencing that truth with those in my home that has enabled us to face past challenges and that will prepare us for all those difficulties that still lie before us.
thatmom realizes:
If I think about 37 years of marriage, times the number of loads of laundry I have done for 2 parents, 6 children and 1 grandma, I am amazed to know that I have washed, dried, folded, (sometimes ironed) and put away roughly 27,526 loads of laundry. That is over 215,000 socks! Or, in that same amount of time, provided 38,324 meals for a family and sometimes guests. Or that I have overseen nearly 21,500 hours of education of one sort or another during that time. Just thinking of these numbers takes my breath away. ~ thatmom
thatmom says:
"Real books from the library, a tub of art supplies, being read stories rich in vocabulary, a variety of good music, the daily discussion of God’s Word and how it relates to the world around him, and the attention of a loving parent who includes him in all the activities of real life are the secrets to a great learning experience for children." ~ thatmom
thatmom says:
"Being a mom is sort of like being all the people who crowd into a basketball arena all at once. Sometimes we are the players, the ones who are responsible for everything that is going on and our presence is front and center. Sometimes we are the coaches, giving comfort and encouragement, instructing with a clipboard in hand. Other times we are the referees, no striped shirts required but whistles are a must to break up the disputes when the game isn’t played as per the rules. Still other times we are the fans, cheering wildly from the stands, shouting from a distance but not from the floor. And then there are the days when we are the cheerleaders, the ones who scream 'Yeah, you can do it.' " ~ thatmom
thatmom says:
“The beauty of homeschooling is building relationships within our families and inspiring our children to become lifelong learners, gently leading them into the truth of Scripture and trusting that the work we have begun will be brought to completion by a sovereign God who has a plan for building His heavenly kingdom.” ~ thatmom
thatmom says:
"A family that embraces a paradigm becomes lazy and doesn’t study the Word of God for themselves. They take what others state as gospel. They have to check in with the “expert” blogs to see how so and so is doing it. It requires little effort and, truthfully, little leadership on the part of the parents. Dads who think they are turning the hearts of their children to themselves are really turning the hearts of their children to the dad’s gurus!" ~ thatmom
thatmom also says:
“After parenting for 36 years, I have come to realize that all paradigms are basically a list of do’s and don’ts that someone has created. Instead of embracing a list, I have discovered that it is best for me to run all ideas, philosophies, and paradigms through my “one-anothering hopper.” I ask myself if the suggestions or ideas I am hearing will serve to build my relationships or will serve to tear them down; will they reflect the one-anothering commands of Scripture? I ask if they are a picture of Christ and His relationship with me as His needy daughter. If not, I am not interested, no matter how much appeal they might have for any number of reasons.” ~ thatmom
thatmom says this, too:
“The word wisdom is used in Exodus to describe the knowledge that the Lord gave to the skilled artisans so they could make Aaron’s garments for worship. We are told that these workers “were given wisdom and understanding in knowledge and all manner of workmanship.” I have never had to sew any garments for a priest to wear for worship. I have not had to sew any draperies or build any walls or prepare any inner sanctuary as per the Lord’s instructions. But I have been called to give all I can toward the goal of building up children in the faith, preparing children for life outside my home, children whose bodies, we are told, are called the very temple of the Holy Spirit, children whose job it is to worship in spirit and in truth." ~ thatmom
what does thatmom believe?
" What is thy only comfort in life and death? "That I, with body and soul, both in life and death, am not my own, but belong unto my faithful Savior Jesus Christ; who, with His precious blood, has fully satisfied for all my sins, and delivered me from all the power of the devil; and so preserves me that without the will of my heavenly Father, not a hair can fall from my head; yea, that all things must be subservient to my salvation, and therefore, by his Holy Spirit, He also assures me of eternal life, and makes me sincerely willing and ready, henceforth, to live unto him." ~ Heidelberg Catechism
What does it mean to be a Christian?

1.We must acknowledge that we are all sinners. “For we are all become as one that is unclean, and all our righteousnesses are as a polluted garment: and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away. (Isaiah 64:6) and “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23)

2.We are all accountable for our own sins before God. “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.” (2 Corinthians 5:10)

3.There is only one way to be forgiven of these sins and that is through the blood of Jesus Christ. “Jesus said, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6)

4.If we confess our sin to the Lord and repent of it (not allow it to rule in our lives) we can be forgiven and be in right standing with God. “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousenss.” (1 John 1:9)

5.Genuine salvation will result in living lives of good works but none of those works contribute in any way to our standing before God which is based solely and completely on the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross. “But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, He sat down at the right hand of God. (Hebrews 10:12) and “Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy He saved us by the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Spirit. (Titus 3:5) and “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God.” (Ephesians 2:8)

6.We all, men and women, boys and girls, have direct access to the throne of grace because everyone who is a born-again believer in Jesus Christ is called a “priest and king” in God’s economy. “But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for His own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.” (I Peter 2:9)

I believe that many of the false teachings within the patriocentric movement are in direct contrast to these Scriptures and I would encourage each of us to first examine what we believe about Jesus and His work on the cross, its implications and its marvelous power.

Secondly, I would challenge anyone reading here to examine your own heart and ask yourself whether you have been trusting in good works….baptism, homeschooling, church attendance, modest dress, the list goes on and on, or if you have placed ALL your faith and hope in Jesus’ blood and righteousness alone.

And finally, I would challenge you to examine the teachings within your own church system, whether it is Protestant, Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholic, etc. Ask yourself what your church teaches about ecclesiastical authority and family authority. Does it line up with the Word of God? It is a top down system that requires certain works in exchange for a relationship with Jesus Christ or do you have the assurance that you are saved for eternity by His death on the cross in your stead? Does it teach that the fruits of the spirit and obedience to all the one anothers is what our lives will demonstrate or is there a list of man made rules?

If you desire to talk with me about this, please send me a note to shesthatmom@gmail.com. My desire is that no one who visits this website will leave without knowing the glorious truth that we can have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and can enjoy a life filled with His goodness and grace!

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